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Thoughtful
 09 Feb '18  18:45 : 0 recs

So is war in Europe a possibility ?
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little c
 03 Feb '18  11:59 : 0 recs

In reply:

Honestly you have to read this guy's defence. It would be hilarious if you put aside the fact he committed an appalling terror attack.

The master race brain at work?

Yours, George?
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George Sore Ass
 01 Feb '18  16:34 : 0 recs : edited 1 time : last edit 01 Feb '18  16:35

Update. Finsbury Park attacker convicted after just one hour of jury deliberation.

Honestly you have to read this guy's defence. It would be hilarious if you put aside the fact he committed an appalling terror attack.

The master race brain at work?
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George Sore Ass
 01 Feb '18  14:20 : 0 recs : edited 2 times : last edit 01 Feb '18  14:31

Ladies and gentlemen, behold the most impressive legal defence in the history of British justice.

Accused had no reason to deny he committed murderous terror act

Yes, no reason at all. Aside from life imprisonment maybe. But other than that, nothing. Oh yes, and it was Dave driving. Don't know his last name.

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George Sore Ass
 25 Jan '18  09:45 : 0 recs

I have always resented being told what to do by the Germans !

Better get used to it. We used to be able to veto things and have a seat at the table to argue our corner. Now David "Mega trade deals in 12-24 months" Davis has conceded the UK is going to be following and accepting EU rules in a transition period without any say or veto. Ouch!

Interestingly, Davis made a speech in 2013 when calling for the EU referendum:

http://www.daviddavismp.com/david-davis-mp-delivers-speech-on-the-opportunities-for-a-referendum-on-europe/

He made the case then for staying in the EU customs union. And he also argued that he believed that a strong public 'leave' vote was required, and expected it to be 70%+.

So it's interesting he was wrong about the level of public support for leaving, but has decided to use 52% as a mandate to not only leave the EU, but the customs union too, which he previously proposed remaining in. Although it has to be said, his grasp of how things work seems shaky considering he seemed to think (a) the UK could negotiate new trade deals before it leaves the EU (b) he could negotiate and make trade deals individually with EU members like Germany, France, etc.

The Euro seems to be doing rather well at present, as does the Eurozone. Brexitters on forums still bang on about its failure, and quote high unemployment in places like Portugal. But Portugal is booming now. The economic recovery is quite remarkable in the 4 years I have been here. Consumer confidence is the highest for 20+ years, and unemployment has gone from 17% to around 8%, and still falling, while tourism is the best it's ever been. This has only stoked confidence in Portugal that the EU knows what it is doing, and that the support it provided was critical to turning the country around.

The Germans and French seem to have a spring in their step. Brexit just isn't an issue to most in Europe now, there is a general acceptance now that the UK is on the ropes and is going to capitulate totally and end up essentially as a vassal state, following EU rules because it has no choice, while having no say in them.

Ironically, the Germans will have even more power over the UK after brexit, but only as part of the EU. Effectively every large EU country has an effective veto over trade terms with the UK, which means all the big EU countries, and groups of smaller ones, can effectively tell the UK what to do. It's going to be very humbling for brexitters I think.
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Thoughtful
 24 Jan '18  09:27 : 0 recs

Watching Sky news it seems Donald Trump was correct about recycling being a con !
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Slightly Optimistic
 17 Jan '18  08:39 : 0 recs

Thoughtful, the governments at the G20 have repeatedly voted that they do not wish to become more accountable for the $trillions of public funds they steward. This refusal of course undermines trust, not least in global finance. It also establishes a culture for audit safeguards.

I understand that a bank rescue package totalling some £500 billion was announced by the British government on 8 October 2008. It appears the expenditure can't be effectively audited as Westminster showed.

But the wider problem should really be addressed - perhaps China would support such a move when it improves the system of global finance, as Beijing seems to intend.
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Thoughtful
 16 Jan '18  23:38 : 0 recs

Yep SO , Tesco and their forecasts ?

Aitours and rewriting their accounts for the previous 3 yrs ?

Yet nothing ever happens to the accountants , auditors and directors ?

Not to mention Gordon Brown and the Lloyds takeover of HBOS !
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Slightly Optimistic
 16 Jan '18  18:56 : 0 recs

Indeed Thoughtful, Carillion raises a number of matters.

I see that the UK Business secretary has asked the Insolvency Service to “fast-track” its investigation into Carillion’s directors. Moreover he has asked the UK's financial regulator, the Financial Reporting Council, to investigate the preparation of Carillion’s accounts – past and present – as well as its auditors.

Echoes here of the formal investigation in the UK into the financial crisis in 2008. A Westminster enquiry heard from bank auditors that the government had dissuaded them from reporting the true position of the banks that were subsequently bailed out with public money. Little came of this as you might suspect.
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Thoughtful
 16 Jan '18  16:47 : 0 recs : edited 2 times : last edit 16 Jan '18  16:54

Well SO I dare say one of the foreign companies will buy up the remains of Carillion for a good price !

The UK government knew Carillion was a disaster before they awarded many of the recent contract# ?

Your post was interesting , as you point out job creation very often takes precedence over good management !

British management has never been any good , good management would have avoided the ridiculous situation that Carillion was in ?

Don’t forget they were probably several times more efficient than many of the public services hence they gained contracts to replace such services ?

A couple of years ago I was at a seminar where the CEO of Carillion was the guest speaker . He boasted tha some of their most profitable contracts were when they took over the road maintenance from local authoriities . They maintained the roads at a fraction of the cost that the local authorities had incurred !

When asked how they did it he replied that they repaired potholes once ? The local authorities repaired them again and again every few weeks ? He said they did the job properly first time !
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Slightly Optimistic
 16 Jan '18  16:10 : 0 recs : edited 1 time : last edit 16 Jan '18  16:13

The government's decision to proceed with big infrastructure spending, in which Carillion was a contractor, reminds me of the policies of India [20 times the population of the UK] in creating employment. We're fighting a rearguard action; so much for Keynesianism.

It is common for governments to seek "employment multipliers". The US experience is that the auto industry helps create jobs even beyond the realm of manufacturing. Each U.S. vehicle-manufacturing job creates nearly seven other jobs across the U.S. economy. These jobs are moving away; India has attracted numerous vehicle manufacturers to its shores. Other advanced manufacturing industries such as defence, steel, aircraft, and shipbuilding can have a sizeable multiplying effect, so where possible such industries are lured to the developing world first as joint ventures with the rich world [eg, Jaguar Land Rover and plane building in India] and later as stand-alone.
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Thoughtful
 16 Jan '18  14:12 : 0 recs

Carillon ?

How not to manage a company !

Why oh why oh why did the Government award contracts to such a badly managed company ?
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Thoughtful
 11 Jan '18  09:11 : 0 recs

If the intention is to doom a policy before it starts then use Michael Gove ?
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ssaines
 30 Dec '17  15:27 : 0 recs : edited 1 time : last edit 30 Dec '17  15:28

[No zorro I haven’t changed my mind on Brexit ! ]

I didn't realize the Black Knight was a car built in Birmingham.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690
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Thoughtful
 28 Dec '17  23:45 : 0 recs

No zorro I haven’t changed my mind on Brexit !

The EU was becoming a Federal Europe !

If we have a trade agreement the UK will have the best of both worlds ?

I have always resented being told what to do by the Germans !
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zorro
 28 Dec '17  10:11 : 0 recs

Thoughful

Hardly 'badly thought out'. In fact this is a very well-thought out, quite deliberate Tory policy to put the skids under Labour councils. Ie, one in the eye for Jeremy. Because, when their council tax goes up the majority of the voters will not hate the central government, but blame the local council.

As Tory councils generally have a bigger tax base, this policy won't cause the same difficulties in Tory councils.

By the way, have you changed you mind on Brexit yet, or you still think it's going to be spiffing and the 'Continentals need us more than we need them?'
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Thoughtful
 23 Dec '17  09:24 : 0 recs

Government policies have created huge financial demands on local authorities , now instead of raising tax they are telling councils to increase council tax by 6% !

Income tax is based on income council tax is not so even those with low incomes will have to pay including many pensioners !

Another badly thought out policy by Theresa May ?
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Thoughtful
 20 Dec '17  18:42 : 0 recs

Council tax to rise by 6% when less and less people are paying full council tax and many pay none at all ?

The Tories want voters to blame Labour councillors !
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little c
 15 Dec '17  13:16 : 0 recs

In reply, Thoughtful:

The UK General Election

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Replying to Thoughtful

Well little c either the tax payer or the consumer is paying for the smart meters ?

They are very good but one can only economise so much without reducing ones comfort !

The implementation and roll out of smart meters has been managed or not managed disastrously !

£ billions have been wasted ?

Must b saving a fortune in meter readers ???


Yes. Repetition is a dictatorial device for emphasis of a specific point. Brexit, for example, means Brexit, Thoughtful! Don't you think?
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little c
 15 Dec '17  13:16 : 0 recs

In reply, Thoughtful:

The UK General Election

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Replying to Thoughtful

Well little c either the tax payer or the consumer is paying for the smart meters ?

They are very good but one can only economise so much without reducing ones comfort !

The implementation and roll out of smart meters has been managed or not managed disastrously !

£ billions have been wasted ?

Must b saving a fortune in meter readers ???


Yes. Repetition is a dictatorial device for emphasis of a specific point. Brexit, for example, means Brexit, Thoughtful! Don't you think?
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